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Pa. Court: Nurse Can be Fired For Sex with Patient

Pa. Court: Nurse Can be Fired For Sex with Patient

MArk Scolforo / AP

August 07, 2008

HARRISBURG, Pa. – A hospital had the right to fire a male nurse for having consensual sex with a patient two days after she underwent heart surgery, a state appeals court ruled Thursday.

The Commonwealth Court decision overturned an arbitrator’s ruling that had reinstated the nurse.

The patient had double bypass surgery at Temple University on July 13, 2006, and had sex with nurse Richard Baldwin sometime around 4 a.m. on July 15, according to the opinion.

Hospital investigators said the patient indicated she was attracted to Baldwin and that the medications she was taking had nothing to do with what happened.

Baldwin gave conflicting statements about the encounter to hospital investigators and the arbitrator.

He testified before the arbitrator that he did not have sex with the woman, but investigators said he told them that the woman had come on to him and that he was being fired for having consensual sex.

Even if it was consensual, the sex act was a violation of state nursing standards and hospital policy, hospital officials argued.

Judge Doris A. Smith-Ribner, writing on behalf of a unanimous three-judge panel, agreed and concluded that the arbitrator made troubling and serious errors.

“The arbitrator emphasized that he found a contradiction as to who initiated the sexual encounter, which could not be resolved because the patient did not testify,” she wrote. “As the applicable regulations make plain, and as should be immediately obvious, the question of who initiated the encounter has no bearing at all on whether Baldwin violated the regulations.”

Jonathan K. Walters, attorney for the Temple University Hospital Nurses’ Association, said Thursday the union will have to decide whether to pursue an appeal to the state Supreme Court. He said the Commonwealth Court panel exceeded the scope of its authority.

“They hammered the arbitrator, but you know, they’re not the arbitrator,” Walters said. “He heard the evidence and he made the decision, and that’s supposed to be the standard.”

Temple University Hospital lawyer Joe H. Tucker Jr. said he would comment after reading the opinion.

(c) YellowBrix 2008


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    smoxignal

    1 day ago

    14 comments

    DUH!?
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    fluffy

    4 days ago

    14 comments

    Was the patient still hospitalized? How old were they? Should the nurse be fired because both parties consented? I would imagine if this is clearly written in the hospital policy that sex with the patient is a No!No! Then I guess the ruling would be right. Maybe a period of probation would be better! As humans being we' re subject to making mistakes!!!!
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    rae1234

    15 days ago

    6 comments

    If it happened after the patient left the hospital the it shouldn't be sucha big deal since it was consensual, however it should never happen if the person was still a patient. That would be extremely unprofessional and would violate code of comduct
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    artcast

    16 days ago

    2 comments

    Well based on the statement above he done such violation to nursing ethics and hospital policy..whatever the decision of the court we should not be against for that... BE GOOD ALWAYS AND BE A MODEL TO YOUR PATIENTS
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    laura59

    16 days ago

    68 comments

    It's just plain WRONG, no matter who initiated the act or where it occurred. The nurse violated all protocol and the patient ...what?...couldn't wait to get laid???? Two nuts in the same shell if you ask me.
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    lizzie

    16 days ago

    8 comments

    This nurse has to be mental unstable, there is something wrong with him, and he needs to see a psychiatrist, this is not normal behaviour
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    jesusfreak

    16 days ago

    8 comments

    Didn't Florence Nightingale provide the same type of nursing for those military men. Holistic nursing in that time. I don't understand the world anymore. Does anything make sense? If it was outside the hospital, how did they find out in the first place? In the hospital, well that's weird!
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    SethRN

    17 days ago

    4 comments

    "The coitus occurred after the professional relationship had ended and in a private home" TWO DAYS AFTER A DOUBLE PYPASS SURGERY?!?!?! You would think that this pt would still be in the unit.
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    cvshaw9

    17 days ago

    6 comments

    The coitus occurred after the professional relationship had ended and in a private home. Additionally, the nurse denies that the coitus actually occured. It is clear to me the charges against this nurse are similar to the infamous "Duke University LaCrosse" rape accusation with the same unjust, predatory, and oppressive use of the legal system to promulgate discriminatory and official oppression. All medical professional have the Constitutional Right to have a social relationship with their former patients after the professional relationship has ended. Many medical professionals do the same inclusive of even marrying their former patients. Why should the male R.N. in this case be treated differently? Is it because he is a male R.N.. Yes, it is the case; and, such blatant sexism should not be tolerated.
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    mssaffira

    18 days ago

    2 comments

    Unprofessional. I agree with the court ruling - if he had ssex w. the pt. in the hospital. What you do when you're off the clock is none of my business... but come on not at work !!! And what about her ABILITY to have sex?!?!?!?!?! She just had open heart surgery! Was he not worried about if her body could handle that kind of activity???
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    jeannie1956

    20 days ago

    2 comments

    08/09/2008 Saturday 0923AM Now, let me understand the female pt had dbl bypass. The male Nurse assigned to provide the care decides that he will violate all moral and ethics of the Nursing field; well, I think that this is not the 1st time that this Nurse has done this with patients assigned to him; anytime a patient makes in apporiate sexual gertures to the HealthCare Provider be it in the Home or the Hospital setting that Nurse/HealthCare Provider should immediately report to his/her supervisor and get re assigned to another patient. Th is Nurse has done this in the past the only difference is this time he was exposed.
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    pezzy

    20 days ago

    274 comments

    Wow, how crazy could ya be?
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    flash8925

    21 days ago

    4 comments

    What happen to patient care? The lady had double bypass surgery and he just got fire, there should little more done consensual or not! This violation very thing we learn about patient care. As a nursing student I know there is a bound line that nurses should never cross with patients, never involve with a patient in hospital, doctor's office or clinic setting. Be a friend BUT DON'T CROSS THE LINE
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    emtpixie

    21 days ago

    78 comments

    You've GOT to be kidding me! Definitely a candidate for the unemployment line!
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    80229duck

    22 days ago

    16 comments

    Hi. All. I am not sure. I do not plan on having sex with my patients when I get my RN. I know that is not a good gig to have sex in a hospital with a patient, and the person with the power has the greatest responsibility.

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